AKOU response to IO letter about “unfair” 5k rds test…
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5000 rds Test – Choose New “Victim”
It is clear that Ras47 and WBP, 5000 rounds stress tests (still in progress), set the new standard for rifles testing. These tests are simply “golden mine” of unbiased information about rifles performance and wear of those rifles internal components. We want to continue to go this path, to give AKOU members the best feedback possible on tested rifles.
At this point, we turn to you, to help us to select next rifle for our 5000 rds signature stress test. Voting pool will be open until end of Sunday, April 3rd.
We want to start this process early, so it will give us a time to collect money to purchase rifle and ammunition for it. Unfortunately, we are not millionaires…
If rifle will survive testing and it will be still operational, we will do giveaway on it!
Choices are as follow (in alphabetic order – pictures and prices below were taken from Atlantic Firearms):
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Open letter to: Century Arms, Kalashnikov USA, Palmetto State Armory and IO
Open letter to: Century Arms, Kalashnikov USA, Palmetto State Armory and IO
AKOU Cast Trunnions challenge
Because of all controversy about cast trunnions in your rifles, I have a simple challenge for all of you to prove to all of us, that you are ready to stand behind your product. No more speculations about cast trunnions strength versus forged trunnions strength. There is time for arguing and there is time for action. Arguing is over.
Challenge rules:
Donate 1 rifle for testing + 50000 rounds
Over next 12 months, we will test your rifle in all different weather environments: from cold winters to extremely hot summers.
We will post videos and pictures updates every month from test progression.
Test will consists of shooting 4166 rounds per month in semi-automatic fire rate. Barrel temperature will be controlled with Fluke Laser thermometer to prevent barrel overheating.
Every 90 rds, rifle will dropped to concrete 2 times, from waist height: 1 time on left side and 1 time on right side.
Manufacturer of the rifle will be responsible for providing all spare parts, like springs, bolts, bolt carriers and so on, as necessary.
We will not test accuracy of the barrel, unless requested by manufacturer. We are focusing on trunnions strength only, but if desired by manufacturer, we can report on accuracy as well.
If you are ready to accept this challenge and prove that, you believe in your product, please comment underneath of this post, then message me or email me at: ak74ski@comcast.net
AKs with Cast Trunnions Drama
RAS 47 Cast Trunnion
I’m just simply amazed by whole “casting vs forged AK trunnions” discussion.
When AR crowd, basically root out and brutally laugh it out any manufacturers who are not following mil spec and not making ARs components stronger, here in AK world, we are trying to justify cutting corners in manufacturing process on part which is the spine of AK…all this is justified by statements like “Science and Manufacturing technology have made a lot of improvements in the last 100 years, or even 50 years and casting is almost as good as forging now – and etc”…
The real question is: why AK users should give up on proven manufacturing process (forging) of critical rifle part, if that part strength was tested for last 5 decades in battles at almost every corner of the world in weather conditions from brutal winters to scorching heat?
Why we should accept what Century, IO and PSA is giving us here now (cast trunnions)?
Why we should settle for less (even if, according to some of you here, it is just “little bit less”)?
Why we should be lab rats for them, so they can get more profits?
Where are their real world tests results to show us that their cast trunnions went through grilling and rigorous tests of at least 50k rds in different weather conditions from -30F winters at Midwest
RAS 47 Cast Trunnion
to scorching heat of Nevada desert? Where i can see that kind of simple test data? Can anyone of you provide me with link to similar tests done by any of those manufacturers?
I’m open minded and i can change my opinion, but please show me real world test data results proving that cast trunnnions perform as well as forged trunnions. But I won’t change my point of view based just on used cars salesmen sales pitch…
At the end of the day, it is you who is going to be behind your rifle when pulling the trigger on it, not me or anyone else. I don’t know about you, but i don’t like taking chances with something what one day may save my life…
People are showing up at our training classes with many “questionable” different AKs. I see them go down usually in 1st day…and this is just a simple training class. Good thing that we have always spare rifles – not for us, but for students…